Class Certification GRANTED! Expert Kimmer REMOVED! Woohoo
Finally, as we approach the 2 year anniversery of the Kimkins scam, today was a big victory for the ducks as Class Certification has been granted. In addition, Live Person – a site dedicated to providing live expert advice has removed Heidi Diaz from their list of experts.
What now?
There are still some more details that need to be hashed out at the Riverside court house, but if nothing else we have proven we have a real case and a certified class.
Members on the list of 40,000 will all need to be contacted, meaning someone will be requested to offer up some information we have been unable to access.
The current state of assets of Kimkins.con are unclear at this time. While a summary judgement request is expected we can only wonder if the amount can really be covered. Of course, there are other tactics that will probably be considered by the defendant – but these will only further exhaust what ever funds may be left. If someone is smart, they will cut their losses now and get while the gettin is good.
There is a saying from anyone who has worked for the government. “Hurry up and wait.”
The next court case hearing appointment that is currently scheduled is for June 8th. While I’m anxious to see things moving again, at least we can now be certain they are moving in the right direction.
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Should You Partner With Paul? Paul Myers is NOT Paul Myers
I just came across this program today while surfing around Craigslist. It was an opportunity to “Partner with Paul.”
Paul’s full name on the web site is Paul Myers. The first and most important factor that needs to be addressed here is that this is not the same Paul Myers from the Warrior Forum.
Ok, with that out of the way, what is this Partner with Paul Program?
Basically, you sign up and pay 10 bucks to get a kit delivered to you that will help you make money online using the company Herbalife. Now, the company you are being instructed to promote is not made clear to you from Pauls original sales letter, but that is the route you will be taken into. I understand if you are a marketer for Herbal life, you are not allowed to use their name in your marketing campaign – and looks like this worked to Pauls advantage with this product so I do applaud his ingenuity in finding a way to build his downline.
So here’s the deal. You should first decide if Herbalife is a product you’d like to promote. The good news is the company appears to be thriving. The bad news is there are old scam reports around the company and issues with their MLM model and product they carry. That is multi level marketing. If you are familiar with MLM then you know the last man on the bottom of the totem pole carries the weight and gets squashed, and the guy at the top gets all the glory. Some claim to have lost weight using the product itself – I don’t know if this works or not.
The marketing kit that is mailed to you is apparently some additional “how to build your own website and make money” stuff. Really, there is no reason to order this stuff as it could have all been provided by simply giving a link to the digital content.
What is Paul getting out of this deal? Well, I have to wonder. When you sign up to his site there is no “please confirm your subscription.” When you get the first email there is no unsubscribe option. Paul is getting a big old list of people who are looking for opportunities to make money, and he is getting your address as well.
What do Pauls affiliates get? Affiliates are getting a generous $2.50 for everyone they refer to Pauls offer.
I was personally led through the chain of command by a domain that had been forwarded and did not initially read partnerwithpaul.com. The ad read “get paid every Friday” which is when Paul offers to pay his personal affiliates – but not necessarily when herbalife pays their affiliates. I have no idea how that works.
I can’t tell you who pays, when they pay, if they pay, or if Herbal life is something you should promote. Those are things you should do your own investigating on.
Is Partner with Paul a scam in general? Hmm, there is a petition for those who feel they were scammed, and some there are claiming they didn’t get their kit, or never got their money back. If this is the case and it is “regular business” for these folks then chances are Paul may be walking a fine line.
You should be fore warned, there will be additional investment requested should you decide to Partner with Paul.
Share this Post[?] Cathys Teeth and Java Script – Acai Has a Friend – CPA
I really should get into the CPA thing, but after Cathys Teeth was just brought to my attention I’m really having a problem considering this type of marketing.
I’m sure it’s just a couple of bad eggs, but here’s what I found. Looks like Cathy’s Teeth is just another promise to lure the customer in with a free sample and then charge them anyway. It just kills me that these companies do this as they not only kill themselves but they hurt other companies with legit CPA offers.
CPA is “cost per action” meaning the affiliate gets paid when getting someone to click through and sign up for a product. Affiliates don’t make money off the actual product, but are paid for the sign-ups they generate. The incentive for the consumer is usually a free sample of some kind. All that is left for the affiliate to do is drop the links to the promotion all over the web.
The Cathy’s Teeth product might even work, but someone was really dancing with black hat when developing the website. There appears to be a line of javascript that will determine the the ip address and instantly drops in the location. What do you know? Cathy lives in your hometown! Well, and everyone elses that is unless you are roaming with a high speed broadband card like myself.
In addition, multiple pages of the exact same site were created (probably for the affiliates) and they are all up and running. This allows affiliates to run google ads quickly as they are able to point the ad to a fresh domain.
The complaints are coming in now, but I am confident the list will grow as more people get charged the $79.00 without realizing. Just a matter of time before they get their credit card bills. Those paying with a debit card will find out much sooner.
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