Kimkins Notice – Opt Out Option
Filed under: Diet, Legal Stuff, kimkins, paid memberships
The following notice is presented for those who may need information on how to not participate in the Class Action Lawsuit against Kimkins.
Why would you want to do this?
Well, for one thing, maybe you like taking diet advice from someone who lied about their weight and used fake pictures from Russian Brides sites to promote her site.
A better reason might be that you did suffer some serious physical consequences and you will need to sue Heidi personally. Just know, if this would be your reason I am truly sorry for ailments you have faced and hope you are well or getting well.
Ok, so here is the information if you wish to duck out the back door:
NOTICE OF PENDENCY OF CLASS ACTION
TO: EVERYONE WHO PURCHASED A MEMBERSHIP TO KIMKINS.COM THROUGH THE KIMKINS.COM WEB SITE (www.kimkins.com) FROM JANUARY 1, 2006 TO OCTOBER 15, 2007
PLEASE READ THIS NOTICE CAREFULLY. YOUR RIGHTS MAY BE AFFECTED BY A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT THAT IS CURRENTLY PENDING IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT, IN RIVERSIDE, CALILFORNIA.
INTRODUCTION
1. On May 20, 2009, the Riverside County Superior Court, located in Riverside, California, issued an order certifying this case to proceed as a class action.
2. The plaintiffs are six individuals who bought memberships to kimkins.com through the kimkins.com Website (www.kimkins.com) from January 1, 2006 to October 15, 2007. The defendants are Heidi Diaz, an individual, and Kimkins (also known as Kimkins.com), a business entity that conducts business in Corona, California.
3. The plaintiffs contend that Diaz and Kimkins.com induced them into buying memberships for kimkins.com through false and misleading information provided on the Kimkins.com Web site. The plaintiffs contend that the defendants violated California Business & Professions Code § 17200, et seq., which authorizes courts to provide relief from unfair, unlawful, and fraudulent business practices. The plaintiffs also contend that Diaz and Kimkins.com violated common law prohibitions against fraud and negligent misrepresentation.
4. This notice provides you with information regarding the litigation, including the plaintiffs’ claims against the defendants and the current status of the litigation. This notice also provides you with information regarding the court’s class-certification order.
THE LITIGATION
The Plaintiffs’ Claims
5. This lawsuit is based on the plaintiffs’ claims that Diaz and Kimkins used unfair, unlawful, or fraudulent business practices to induce them into buying memberships to Kimkins.com. This lawsuit is also based on the plaintiffs’ claims that the false and misleading information contained on the kimkins.com Web site constituted fraud or negligent misrepresentation by Diaz and Kimkins.
6. Here’s a list of the kinds of misconduct that the plaintiffs have alleged:
• that Diaz and Kimkins concocted a false persona, “Kim Drake” or “Kimmer” to sell memberships to Kimkins.com
• that Diaz and Kimkins misled potential members into believing that “Kim Drake” was real by using photos of real women and then falsely claiming that the photos depicted “Drake”
• that Diaz and Kimkins posted lied about “Drake’s” purported weight loss
• that Diaz and Kimkins provided false or misleading information to Women’s World magazine
• that Diaz and Kimkins fabricated 41 “success stories” and published on the Kimkins.com Web
• that Diaz and Kimkins made up celebrity endorsements
• that Diaz and Kimkins misused labels and metatags to steer Internet traffic to the Kimkins.com Website, in violation of the law
• that Diaz and Kimkins misled potential members into believing that they were buying lifetime memberships, when in fact Diaz and Kimkins.com terminated memberships at their whim
• that Diaz and Kimkins intended to mislead potential members and assumed that potential members would rely on her misrepresentations.
The Defendants’ Position
7. Diaz and Kimkins have denied all allegations of wrongdoing and liability, and they continue to deny that they have done anything wrong. Diaz and Kimkins also have asserted various affirmative defenses to the plaintiffs’ claims.
THE COURT’S CLASS-CERTIFICATION ORDER
8. In an order filed May 20, 2009, the Court granted the Plaintiffs’ Motion for Class Certification. The Court certified for class treatment the plaintiffs’ claims for equitable relief, including disgorgement of the subscription fees paid to Diaz and Kimkins by the plaintiffs and the members of the class.
9. The certified class is defined as all individuals who purchased the Kimkins.com diet membership on-line from the Kimkins.com Web site from January 1, 2006 through October 15, 2007.
THE COURT HAS NOT EXPRESSED ANY OPINIONS
REGARDING THE MERITS OF THE PLAINTIFFS’ CLAIMS
10. The Court ordered that this notice be provided to advise class members that this case is pending and that the Court has certified the case to proceed as a class action. You should not consider this notice or its mailing to be a statement by the Court that the plaintiffs are right or that their claims will prevail.
INSTRUCTIONS TO CLASS MEMBERS
11. You do not need to do anything to remain a member of the class. If you bought a Kimkins.com diet membership on-line from the Kimkins.com Web site from January 1, 2006 through October 15, 2007—including either of those dates—you are automatically included in the class. Your rights will be represented by the plaintiffs and their attorneys. You will not be personally responsible for any attorney fees or for the any of the costs of this litigation.
OPT OUT OF CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT
12. You have the opportunity to opt out of the class action lawsuit as detailed herein. If you incurred a personal injury as a result of using the Kimkins.com aka Kimkins Diet, you have a right to opt out. Notices to opt must be sent to jtiedt@tiedtlaw.com or mailed to Tiedt & Hurd at 980 Montecito Drive, Suite 209, Corona, California 92879.
WHERE TO GO & WHOM TO CONTACT
SHOULD YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION
13. This notice provides only a brief summary of this litigation. For further details, you should take one or both of the following steps:
• Review the documents in the Court’s file for this lawsuit. Many of these documents may be viewed or obtained on-line at the following URL: http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenAccess/ . You also may review the Court’s file in person by going to the Office of the Clerk of the Court for the Riverside Superior Court, during regular business hours. The Clerk’s office is located at 4050 Main Street, Riverside, California 92501.
• Write a letter to the attorneys who are representing the plaintiffs and whom the Court has appointed to represent the class. Here are their names and their contact information:
John E. Tiedt & Marc S. Hurd
Tiedt & Hurd
980 Montecito Drive, Suite 209
Corona, California 92879
Michael L. Cohen
Michael L. Cohen, a PLC
707 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 4100
Los Angeles, California 90017
Ray Moore
Moore Winter McLennan LLP
701 N. Brand Blvd., Suite 200
Glendale, California 92103-4232
If you decide to contact one of the plaintiffs’ attorneys, please do so in writing. To make it easier for them or one of their staff members to respond, however, your letter should include both your e-mail address and your telephone number.
There are estimated to be as many as 40,000 members in the class. So please, DO NOT CALL THE COURT OR ATTEMPT TO CONTACT THE COURT BY E-MAIL.
DATE: ___________________________, 2009
____________________________________
Hon. _________________________,
Presiding Judge
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Email Address May Tip You Off To A Scam or Phishing
Do you use a free email address or one that is associated with mass emailing services? What can that do to your business?
I recently had a member who had received an email, his name has been removed to protect his identity. Here is how it read:
Attn:(insert name here)
I am the personal/sole executor to the late Mr.Robert Schroeter hereinafter referred to as my client who worked as an independent oil magnate in my country.He died in a car crash with his immediate family in East London on November 5, 2002..
Mr Robert had Left behind a deposit of 6.8 Million British Pounds Sterling only with a trust company After his death,the Trust company contacted me being his attorney to provide who is right heir to his fortune and this according to them is their policy in sure circumstances.Directors of the company just adopted a resolution and I was mandated to provide his right heir for the release of the fund within a very limited time or forfeit the fund as an abandoned funds.your last name is similar making it easier.
It is unprofitable for his funds to be submitted to the government of this country or some financial institution.Like I said, I require solemn confidentiality on this. Please get in touch with me by my alternative email (hammwrkrichard@hotmail.com) 44-701 113 9692 for better confidentiality and send to me your telephone and fax numbers to enable us discuss further on this transaction. Thanks for your understanding.
Richard Hamm.
solicitor at law.
44-701 113 9692
hammwrkrichard@hotmail.com
What? A “solicitor at law” is using a hotmail account? This was my first tip off that this was an unprofessional email.
I mean, come on. Who would use a free email account for such “private” information? Surely an attorney would know better. Or would he?
Here’s another email I received just today that had me even more puzzled. This is what appears to be an official type email directed to me, and again the user is using AOL. I know there is a paid version of AOL as well, heck I used to pay the 20 or 25 bucks a month for AOL when they first started – but I know better now. When you get your own website, you can easily create your own private email addresses which give you a more professional look IMO (IMO means “In my opinion” which by the way my opinions are covered I believe by the first amendment 
.
Without further adeau here is that letter:
THE PEABODY LAW FIRM
620 Newport Centre Drive, Ste 1100
Newport Beach, California 92660
E-Mail: peabodylaw@aol.com
Telephone:(949) 200-4610
Facsimile:(949)200-4611
May 29, 2009
Ms. Jill Carpenter
Groton, Massachusetts
Re: Blog: First Request for Address to Effect Service of Process: Demand to Cease and Desist:
Dear Ms. Carpenter:
This office represents the interests of Heidi Diaz and Kimkins. In light of the contents of your recent blogs and web pages, it is apparent that you are familiar with my client(s) as well. My office is preparing litigation which involves your recent willful conduct and activities aimed at harming or interfering with my client and my client’s ongoing business interests.
As such, demand is hereby made that you immediately cease and desist from making any further derogatory or untoward comments on your blog(s) regarding my client and her business interests. In the event you fail to comply with this demand immediately, my client has instructed my office to vigorously pursue all avenues of relief for her damages via a court of appropriate jurisdiction. I further request that you provide your address or an address of your legal counsel authorized to accept service of legal process on your behalf.
In the event you fail to do so, I will promptly issue a subpoena to obtain your personal information from your internet provider.
Please feel free to contact me at your convenience to discuss this matter or in the event you have any questions or comments.
Sincerely,
THE LAW OFFICE OF TIMOTHY P. PEABODY, ESQ.
By:
Timothy P. Peabody, Esq.
Attorney for: HEIDI DIAZ dba KIMKINS
kks/TPP
cc: Client File
What is up with an aol email? And even more puzzling and unprofessional, what if I told you this email was not sent to my personal direct email address from the initial sender? It was sent to another party who forwarded it to me! How messed up is that?
Mr. Peabody may as well have just posted it in the comments area here on my blog. Since it had already been shared with another party, there is obviously no reason for me to hide it. Apparently Mr. Peabody didn’t think it was anything to really keep private, so why should I?
Let’s address the rest of this letter while I’m at it. Hold on while I pour myself a drink.
Yum. Ok.
Dear Ms. Carpenter:
Yes, that would be me.
This office represents the interests of Heidi Diaz and Kimkins.
Why? Er I mean, you poor thing. I guess someone has to though. Honestly, I’m happy my good tax dollars are not going to pay for that defense. So thank you Mr. Peabody for offering to take her money and defend her – which by the way if you didn’t know, some of that money she is paying you was probably generated by myself during the time of the Womans World promotion. So in effect my past efforts have been paying you in a round about way. Just think, there wouldn’t be funds to pay you if it weren’t for the marketing efforts of myself and some other affiliates.
In light of the contents of your recent blogs and web pages, it is apparent that you are familiar with my client(s) as well.
You could say I’m a tad bit familiar with the case. Yes, I may have invested a year or so doing my best to help uncover FRAUD. That is what a good citizen does. Not just uncovering the fraud, but making sure others are well aware of it. IMO.
My office is preparing litigation which involves your recent willful conduct and activities aimed at harming or interfering with my client and my client’s ongoing business interests.
Oh! Exciting! An Investigation of some sort? You will need to investigate to prepare for your litigation I’m guessing? Will Kojak and Jessica Lansbury be there? How about that other guy with the trench coat – you know, oh gosh, I forgot his name. Perhaps my commenters will remind me. It’s on the tip of my tongue with some vodka right now so please forgive me.
“willful conduct and activities aimed at harming or interfering with my client and my client’s ongoing business interests.”
Now just hold on a minute there Mr. Peabody – you got it all wrong. My goal here at this blog is to expose online scams. If your client has done nothing wrong then honestly she has nothing to fear. What can little old me do here in Groton Mass? ROFLMBO Ok, I just had to look it up and it does appear that such a place exists. I can tell you with all honesty on both of my grandmothers graves I have not lived there and that is not where I am. But thank you for letting me discover a new place on google maps.
“my client’s ongoing business interests.“
Sorry, but I just had to break that up a bit more. Now Mr. Peabody, how the heck would I know what your clients ongoing business interests are? I don’t live in her house. I don’t even live in the same state. Geeze, if I had that information I would be one powerful person. I guess I’m flattered at the credit you give me.
As such, demand is hereby made that you immediately cease and desist from making any further derogatory or untoward comments on your blog(s) regarding my client and her business interests.
Hmm. So if I say Heidi Diaz did not lose 198 lbs in 11 months and was not the woman in the lawn chair, nor the woman in the red dress, I should be ok, right? But I don’t get why what you’re alluding to is that I can not say something like “she is also the founder of simplechoicesdiet.com” because that might be a business interest? That information is public knowledge. Why am I not allowed to say something like that? Is she wanting to keep that information private for some reason? Because honestly she didn’t do a very good job of it. That information practically landed in my lap – like she was flaunting it. Yes, I can’t tell you how right now for obvious reasons – but that information is avalable all over the web. Heidi Diaz owns simple choices diet, Heidi Diaz owns simple choices diet, Heidi Diaz owns simple choices diet. There. I said it. Big Whoop.
In the event you fail to comply with this demand immediately, my client has instructed my office to vigorously pursue all avenues of relief for her damages via a court of appropriate jurisdiction.
Damages? What? What about my hair falling out? What about my business going down the toilet for promoting a diet where she gave me materials to promote with that she had no right to be sharing – IE Russian bride pictures on banners? What about her false story that she told me I could use – along with anything on the Kimkins site to promote her diet? You want to talk damages? What about the mental anguish I faced when realizing I was promoting a diet that was based on fraud? That I believed that woman had lost weight and kept it off, only to find out it was all a lie? Do you have any clue about my damages? I have been VERY kind to not even address them in full at this time, but if you think I am going to sit here and take your threatening letter, you’d better think again.
I further request that you provide your address or an address of your legal counsel authorized to accept service of legal process on your behalf.
Request all you want Mr. Peabody. Perhaps I will request to get your computer and email correspondence as for all I know you sent this email to a thousand people. An email that should have been sent directly to me as a private and confidential matter. That you sir had knowledge of my websites, and could have simply sent me an email though the proper channels, but chose to send it to a random person who now knows about this.
In the event you fail to do so, I will promptly issue a subpoena to obtain your personal information from your internet provider.
I’ll tell you what. You give me your information, and I’ll give you mine. Maybe.
Please feel free to contact me at your convenience to discuss this matter or in the event you have any questions or comments.
Here’s a tip to you Mr. Peabody – if that is your real name. Get yourself a real email address to reply to other than that AOL thing you put on your letter. That just doesn’t cut it for me – as you can see from the first scam mail at the top of this post.
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Win $300! Kimkins Essay Contest 2009
Wowee! A Kimkins Essay Contest!
I just got the newsletter, and looks like I have a chance to win anywhere from $50-$300 usd from an entry into the Kimkins Essay Contest 2009.
Here’s your chance — tell us!
TOPIC: Why I Like Kimkins
PRIZES: $50-300
ENTRY FEE: None
DEADLINE: May 11, 2009
WORD COUNT: Minimum: 250 Maximum: 1,000
WINNERS ANNOUNCED: June 1, 2009
GUIDELINESEntries will be judged on originality, sincerity and how well your message is conveyed.
Essays may be typed or handwritten.
Before/after photos may be included to demonstrate your message.
Entries will be blind judged. Personal identifying information will be removed before forwarding to the Selection Committee.
Entries must include first name, last name, Kimkins user name, email address and home address. Please write or type the information on your essay.
Winners will be announced on June 1, 2009. Certified checks will be mailed to the winners by June 15, 2009.
Winning essays may be published at Kimkins.com and personal information removed.
Kimkins staff members, vendors and consultants are ineligible to enter or judge entries. The decision of the Selection Committee is final.
Submit entries by email to webmaster@kimkins.com or mail at Kimkins, 575 Calhoun St., Corona, CA 92879.
Entries and photos must be received by email or postmarked by May 10, 2009 12:00 a.m. Entries received after the deadline will not be considered.PRIZES
1st Place: $300 cash & free Kimkins gift membership
2nd Place: $150 cash & free Kimkins gift membership
3rd Place: $50 cash & free Kimkins gift membership
5 Honorable Mention: Kimkins gift basket & Kimkins gift membership
Ok, so there’s the details. Let’s see if I can get a head start on this.
Let’s begin with the first question. Why do I like Kimkins? Hmm. Why do I… Hmmm Like Kimkins….hmmm.
Oh, I know!
If it weren’t for Kimkins, I would have never learned so much about the internet, online marketing, scams, and diets. Kimkins opened my eyes to how easy it is to steal borrow photo’s from Russian Bride websites and use them as your own success stories or what ever you please. This opened my eyes to a plethora of other ways photos can be used on the internet to con convince people your product is good.
Thanks to Kimkins, I have learned that yahoo answers can be used to drive traffic to your website promotions. I have learned the art of sock puppetry. Yes, just like pen names, a person can create many personas on the web and use them to be as many people as they desire. The more different people you can portray, the more it looks like you have a great product to promote, especially when everyone is saying great things about your product.
Thanks to Kimkins, I have learned how vitally important article marketing is and how your articles can spread like weeds all over the internet giving you a bazillion backlinks to your website. I have also learned that activists can get these articles removed with some good old fashioned elbow grease.
Kimkins has been instrumental in helping me find new friends that will be with me for life!
If it weren’t for Kimkins, I would still be in the dark on how easy it is to sue someone and get sued. I have learned to accept life on the run as just a normal part of everyday life. I have learned that if you are trying to sue someone in another state over an internet issue that you may get shot down for “lack of jurisdiction.”
I have learned the importance of a class action lawsuit. How it is something created to protect everyone. I have learned that the court system is very slow in Corona California, but that a lawyer like John Tiedt is a one in a million God send. He has been persistent for well over a year now and has assured us he will not stop until the right thing has been done.
Thanks to Kimkins, I have learned there are free forums on the internet and people who can support you in your weightloss journey. I now know that fast weightloss can cause some serious damage and that gastric bypass patients really need the serious care of a doctor and they need many supplements to maintain their health. It’s not just about making the stomach smaller so you can eat less.
I have learned that some kind of exercise is really important for long term sucessful weightloss. Also, that anything below 800 calories a day is considered starvation.
I like how Kimkins has helped me learn the lesson of how some things need to be kept very quiet until thoroughly investigated.
Most of all, I like Kimkins for the never ending blog topics I am presented with. I can find another angle to hash out just about any day of the week.
I have also learned that it is frowned upon now by the FTC for affiliates to be incentivised with product or money to write positive reviews on a product. How that can get the blogger and the product owner into a whole heap of trouble if done wrong.
Finally, I have learned that even if you never say anything wrong on a forum that you can still be banned from your lifetime membership. That some don’t understand the meaning of spreading the truth and that freedom of speech is a right here in the USA.
Yes, I like Kimkins for the learning experience it has provided me on all these things.
Ok, so there is the first draft of my essay. I would like to submit some photos but my camera is on the fritz at them moment. Hmm, DUH! Yes! I have some photos:
Yes, that is me before Kimkins – and here is my after:
Thanks Kimkins!
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Share this Post[?] Can You Hear Me Now?
As much as we have spread the word about the Kimkins diet, there are still so many who just don’t know. I see it as a responsibility to get the word out to as many people as I can.
I want to thank Awesomeology for stopping by with a question about Adsense Dangers.To ensure the important question was not lost to the comments area, I’m putting it here.
Awesomeology asked: How exactly is that an AdSense danger?
Avenuegirl answered: What a fantastic question, and I’m glad you asked. Big A, have you ever done a google search for Kimkins? I’ll give you a quick summary here. “Kimmer” aka Heidi Diaz created a diet called the Kimkins Diet. She used pictures taken from a Russian brides site to represent herself, and claimed that she had lost 198 lbs in 11 months. After a big Womans World release last year the diet got a big advertising boost, and the site exploded to over 20 thousand members. Then, some people were unable to see Kimmer in person and some were not feeling so well and noticed there were some problems with this diet – that supposedly the founder had done over 5 years ago and kept the weight off. A nice PI got us some video of our diet guru and the rest is history. Not only was she morbidly obese and tried denying to reporters that she was Heidi Diaz, but she has no nutritional certification that we know of and the diet itself appears to have triggered eating disorders amongst a group of it’s members. There is much much more! For one, there is a class action lawsuit that has been filed against Kimkins, and most recently the owner of Kimkins has struck back with a counter suit as apparently she has been caused some stress over the whole thing.
Unfortunately big A, the Kimkins site is still up and running, and by your allowing adsense ads for Heidi Diaz on your site you are providing a portal for people to get possibly sucked into a diet that was created by a fraud and a liar. I say fraud and a liar confidently, as it is the truth and we have proven it many times over. I would hate to see your friends or family get taken by this woman who banned many members from the site for no reason – thus not making good on our “lifetime memberships.”
I know you are just a guy trying to make a buck – and I don’t fault you for that whatsoever. If you would like to join in the cause there is a way to filter out the KImkins ads on your site, or you can look up what I’ve told you and add your own little take on the story.
I want to sincerely thank you for stopping by.
Sincerely,
Avenuegirl
I now see the word really needs to get out even more. As much as I feel like a broken record, it is clear that in this case too much is never enough.
I almost forgot to add! If you are looking for some video Awesomeology, here is a good one, but don’t take my word for it. Be sure to scour youtube and you will see plenty. For some reason this video got a bit squished.
Objects in this video are larger than they appear if you are looking at the squished version;)
Share this Post[?] Adsense Dangers
Adsense can be one of the easiest ways for affiliates to make money on the web. It can also be quite dangerous!
When an affiliate signs up for adsense, they basically allow google to place ads on their site according to the subject matter.
I was most recently amused by this site: http://www.awesomeology.com/category/fatties/
Here is a current picture with the adsense ad in place:
singinglass banner ad
This site is not a diet site, but the ad itself is appropriate according to google.
Here is another Kimkins banner running down the right of the same site.
Wrong Price?
I could swear I saw a different price on this ad – or was it a different ad in the same spot?
I Did! I Did see a different ad yesterday!
Be sure if you are going to use adsense that you are uniform in all your ads. Looks like someone is trying to fix some things. Wonder how they found out the price was wrong in the first place;)
If these files can be fixed, why are the other affiliate banners still running? I’m kinda glad they are actually, as I was able to spend my whole morning taking ALL KINDS OF PICTURES and I made a nice video.
Share this Post[?] Heidi, I’m Furious!
I just found out my name came up as roughly number 5 on a countersuit to the Kimkins Class Action Lawsuit. I’m really Furious!
Why?
It’s not what you might think.
While I have done a little bit of this and a little bit of that, there are others who should be recognized much more than myself. You see, I see my name on that countersuit as a BADGE OF HONOR. To me it means I have done something to get out the word of the dangers of the Kimkins Diet as originally written when I joined last year. But I honestly don’t deserve the credit.
I can’t say I know what is going on now as I was banned from the site (see second post of this blog) and so for all I know the plan is now healthy and maybe someone with a real health background is running the site. But how would I know? So much for my LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP.
So many others have worked one hundred times harder than I did. I have been consumed in my own trials and tribulations, and just do not deserve this great honor.
While some may feel this is an intimidation, a reason to back down, reason to want to be anonymous, I LOVE IT! Heidi, thank you for adding my name to the internet. Thank you for the attention, really. There is only shame in feeling like I really didn’t earn it. Don’t get me wrong – I would have done more than I have if it meant saving someone from tragedy in their business or their health – and if I just had the time! Not to mention dealing with my own personal anguish. I mean who wants to promote a product that is all based on a lie? Not me. And I wouldn’t wish that on any affiliate marketer. And who wants to promote a hap hazard diet that no doctor will approve? Sure not me. I AM AFRAID TO DIET!!!!!
I am afraid to diet.
There, you heard it from the horses mouth.
I have not updated my weight on LCF, and I am afraid to diet all together because mentally I just want to “not eat” and lose fast. Thanks to my friends, I know this will be severely unhealthy. Pound a day my ass. It is not healthy. So in the meantime, I am just 20 pounds shy of having all the weight back. It has now become a major battle in my head – so much so that I can’t even deal with it. The minute I start counting calories is the minute I start going a bit insane. Thanks Heidi. This IS the result of your website and “enough fat to make it work.”
Anyway, back to the topic. I am undeserving of this honor, but I will proudly wear it. I will wear it in support of those who have typed their fingers to the bone.
Really, it is just my name on another piece of paper.
I think I know what the real problem is here. It is quite possible your site has become so stale and stagnent that you just have way too much time on your hands. You had time to start a silly little suit. You want to cry poverty? Mental anguish? etc etc???
What happened to the strong person running their own business and who lost 198 lbs in 11 months? Oh, I’m sorry, that WASN’T you. You never did those things. So maybe you are a bit fragile now and need to lash out with this hobby.
In any event, it looks as though I have not been paying you near enough attention. So, give me a little time and I’ll see if I can’t remedy that.
Keep saying NO to Kimins!
Share this Post[?] Kimkins and Self Esteem
What is it that lures some into defending scams like Kimkins?
Kimkins promised fast weight loss, and that was one of the reasons I joined. But since then, we have all come to realize that fast weight can be dangerous when done the Kimkins way.
Why are people drawn to stay? Many of them know the diet is unsafe. Some claim to stay in order to stay close to their online friends. But can’t they do this on another forum? And without the fear of saying the wrong thing – or being berated for asking simple questions?
I believe some of the die hard KK fans have a much larger problem then losing weight. Many of them seem to be greatly lacking in self esteem.
In fact, self esteem issues could be the cause of their weight gain in the first place. What happens then?
In the pursuit of finding an answer to this weight gain, they sought out Kimkins. In some crazy mixed up way, dieters become fixated with their appearance (more so then their health) and instead of focusing on losing weight for health purposes, they are drawn in to the comments made by their friends and family who are watching them lose weight. Losing weight gets them attention – and attention feeds their self esteem.
Another problem develops. Weight loss done the Kimkins way can not be maintained – and the dieter is faced with either restrictive dieting at dangerously low levels, or gaining the weight back. Upon looking at the mirror, the person that was finally skinny a month ago is back to gaining weight. Clothes will cease to fit. The compliments will stop coming. And self esteem may plummet to all time lows. The cycle continues on, and can quickly manifest into an eating disorder.
This is just one scenario for some of those who have realized the truth about Kimkins.
What can we do about this?
Self esteem affirmations are one solution.
Members of Kimkins need to stop looking to Heidi for support, and learn how to build their own support system from within.
Heidi appears to have the firmest grip on those with low self esteem. She commends those who claim success with her diet, lurking for her next front page triumph (now that her lovely lady in the lawnchair pic or Leysa can’t be used as her own success).
If for some strange reason you are not losing – you must be faux dieting. No, don’t blame you gains or stalls on Kimkins. Obviously you are the problem.
All one needs to do is look at some video of a deposition to see the real problem with Kimkins. It is a big problem, and it is a false treatment for self esteem.
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I’m having a weird deja vu as I write this.
Anyway, I just wanted to be clear here – I am not in the lawsuit against Kimkins for any money. I have seen that you think there are 2 sides to every story, and you see yourself as a success.
I’d like to refer you to a post I have buried somewhere on the Kimkins site. I’d like you to go to search the site, and look for a post called “50 lost, 50 gained” – and I believe it is some where in the success stories.
50 lost was my pounds at the time obviously, and 50 gained referred to things that I could do with that weight off and how I too had the perspective of a success story. People actually printed up my post and put it on their refridgerators.
If my enthusiasm of the plan at the time does not get to you in that post, or anyone else for that matter, then I just don’t know what will.
So, how did I become so bitter? How can I go from such feelings of control and success to wanting to bring down (to light actually) the very thing I though was helping me?
I gotta tell you Dee, things are not as clear cut as you are seeing them.
Heidi did not offer up the information we got from her. Her apology is not real.
No one wants to deny you the success of your weight loss. But we are concerned as some of us now know some additional truths. Any attempts to communicate inside the kimpound are to find those who may still not realize the full truth of this diet and what it can do to ones body.
No one is saying you are not smart enough to up your supplements and exercise. And just so you know – I take full responsibility for everything I did to myself – and I did exercise – and I did up my own supplements. But when all was said and done it wasn’t enough.
I never posted a negative word on the Kimkins site – and I was banned. Never one bad thing. Why?
This particular lawsuit is only about fraud. And yes, there are many other injustices in the world we could go after. And when they concern fraud which ultimately affects ones health you will find those causes do rise to the top of the list. It wouldn’t even be so much if Heidi did just gain some weight back. The problem here is someone who has no proof what so ever that they lost weight. The problem is someone who claimed they had maintained for 5 years after losing this way – giving the illusion that it is okay. There was no loss or maintenance.
If you are not seeing references to things like laxatives that is because they have been swept under the carpet. Just because you didn’t see them doesn’t mean they aren’t there. I’m sure when this is over you will see lots of things you didn’t before.
There are two sides – and I hope you take some more time to see what really is on the other side.
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Filed under: Diet, affiliate marketing, kimkins, viral marketing
Affiliate marketing is a really basic concept. Find the starving crowd, and give them what they want.
Bouncing around some blogs today, I was reminded of something very important. Not everyone knows the truth yet.
The Kimkins crowd is starving no doubt. But it is more than just your normal food hunger. They are starving for the truth.
How do you feed the hungry? How do you get the truth to them? And even if you do get to them, how do you feed them something they didn’t really know they needed?
There is an imaginary wall around camp Kimkins. Like any cult compound, they are all drinking the koolaid – and in a daze. How do we get to them?
We have all these blogs, but who is going to look when some have been so brainwashed they don’t think anything else exists?
As an internet marketer, how do I feed this hungry crowd?
I can’t just barge in and walk around with picket signs. No, that attempt has been done by many, only to receive the the ceremonial ban button.
I will have to come up with another way.
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