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		<title>Clever Coupons for Kimkins</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[* This blog does not endorse the Kimkins plan, and is actually a member of the class action lawsuit currently facing Kimkins. Please know, the diet site Kimkins is responsible for using false advertising, fake pictures, and testimonials. Members are banned on a regular basis, and there is a whole list of things I could [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* This blog does not endorse the Kimkins plan, and is actually a member of the class action lawsuit currently facing Kimkins. Please know, the diet site Kimkins is responsible for using false advertising, fake pictures, and testimonials. Members are banned on a regular basis, and there is a whole list of things I could go into, but feel free to browse this blog for more information, or visit <a href="http://sockittome.info">http://sockittome.info</a> for a list of sites with detailed information.</p>
<div id="attachment_259" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 314px"><a href="http://affiliatescams.wurdmess.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/picture-1.png"><img class="size-full wp-image-259" title="Coupon for Derek" src="http://affiliatescams.wurdmess.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/picture-1.png" alt="good tracking idea" width="304" height="179" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">good tracking idea</p></div>
<p>Here&#8217;s another:</p>
<div id="attachment_262" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 510px"><a href="http://affiliatescams.wurdmess.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/picture-2.png"><img class="size-full wp-image-262" title="coupon for 10 of Kimkins" src="http://affiliatescams.wurdmess.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/picture-2.png" alt="Only 10 percent?" width="500" height="54" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Only 10 percent?</p></div>
<p>I have never doubted that Heidi is quite clever. Here is an ad for Kimkins, but what is different?<br />
It has a coupon code. What does this do? Well coupon codes are not just to benefit the consumer. Many times coupon codes are added to a campaign for the benefit of the affiliate. I&#8217;m not sure this is an affiliate ad though.<br />
This particular coupon is using &#8220;Derek&#8221; to promote, and can be used to track for Heidi which ads are most effective.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll notice, the address posted is the Kimkins.com address at the bottom of the ad. Google&#8217;s terms state that your display address must be the same as the destination address. For an affiliate to not pull Kimkins to their site first and then re-direct would be a waste of adspend. But that is a post for another day.</p>
<p>Does Derek know he is still promoting the diet? Just because he doesn&#8217;t get paid for it, doesn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;s not promoting.</p>
<p>His name and story, still out there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to tell Derek what to do. If he wants to continue to support a website based on fraud, that is his choice. If he truly does not believe there is any fraud going on, then he has nothing to worry about.</p>
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		<title>Like a Girl Waiting for the Phone to Ring Derek&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the existence of Derek as a real person has been confirmed, what is not clear is how he now views Kimkins after having chatted with the folks in FWK over at LCF. Before anyone gets all hot and huffy that I&#8217;m a bad girl blogging about Derek, I will remind you that Derek is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the existence of Derek as a real person has been confirmed, what is not clear is how he now views Kimkins after having chatted with the folks in <a href="http://lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/kimkins">FWK over at LCF</a>.</p>
<p>Before anyone gets all hot and huffy that I&#8217;m a bad girl blogging about Derek, I will remind you that Derek is the one who decided to share his story with Heidi and put himself in the spotlight. I know that Amy Curly appeared to feel bad that she had pointed him out. Amy, you did the right thing and please don&#8217;t feel bad for Derek anymore (if you do). He is a big boy at over 6 feet and has told us he is big so I&#8217;m sure he can handle this. He is a grown adult &#8211; although it seems his living quarters may be a bit cramped by the looks of it.</p>
<p>There are some questions by members that Derek has elected to ignore or glaze over. The big one is &#8220;How do you feel now about Kimkins?&#8221; I feel like a girl waiting for the phone to ring. Is he thinking about his answers or will he just ignore the question?</p>
<p>Derek&#8217;s pictures still rest on the Kimkins diet blogspot. We have offered Derek assistance if he would like to at any time submit a cease and desist. Derek, the longer you have those pictures up on the site, we can only believe that you are in support of Heidi Diaz who we have repeatedly shown you how she is involved in fraud and false advertising. In my opinion you are supporting a fraud Derek. Your positive story is being used to get new members who will give their money to a woman who is a fraud. <strong>Do you want to be known by everyone as a person who supports a fraud?</strong> Do I sound like a mean girl Derek? Well I&#8217;ve been sitting by the phone for quite some time waiting for you to make the call.The sooner you make the call the sooner we will really know what to think about Derek.</p>
<p>I initially wanted to think that Derek really did Kimkins, but upon further investigation I have changed that thought. He was surprised to hear that some of us were measuring our portions &#8211; just one of the things mentioned by Kimmer to really know where your carbs and calories are coming from on the diet. Derek did not measure his portions. He just changed what he was eating. We have no way of knowing what he actually ate since he does not have a fit day. He does not want to debate about what he ate or didn&#8217;t eat at this time. All we know is he is on the FWK thread to confirm his existence. Well, your existence is confirmed so unless you&#8217;d like to inform us of where your loyalties are, then I am done with you. I have a scam to fight and no time to dilly dally with you. I hope this story has a happy ending, but currently it&#8217;s not looking so good. Derek doesn&#8217;t have to answer our questions, but unfortunately for him this is not a good idea if he would like to really verify his existence and show us he is not perhaps a paid actor who was reading off the computer when he made his video.</p>
<p>He has only 3 posts on the Kimkins site, and it doesn&#8217;t look like he was really there to support the other dieters while he was off losing weight. He only came out after the controversy from what I understand. He didn&#8217;t feel comfortable. Supporting a fraud is not a comfortable thing to do. Perhaps that explains something.</p>
<p>I think Derek did the &#8220;derekins&#8221; diet.</p>
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