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		<title>Consumer Retrieval Services &#8211; Scam or Savior?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a new friend Jim. Jim was taken by an internet scam from a company called New Age Marketing. I am still unclear on which website is/was responsible &#8211; but I need to say up front that there are many listings for New Age Marketing &#8211; so this may not be one you do [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a new friend Jim. Jim was taken by an internet scam from a company called New Age Marketing. I am still unclear on which website is/was responsible &#8211; but I need to say up front that there are many listings for New Age Marketing &#8211; so this may not be one you do business with. I am also unclear if that company is still running at this point.</p>
<p>Anyway, I had just heard about Jim&#8217;s 10g story where he was given an internet business and promised some return, only to not see a single penny profit from his investment. No more than a couple days later (today) Jim got a call from a company called Consumer Retrieval Services &#8211; and lucky for him I was in the room to hear the call. CRS seemed to be privy to some information, and knew that Jim had been taken by this company New Age Marketing &#8211; which was an event that happened well over a year ago. I am still unclear on how they got his name or information and knew that he had been taken, but they knew about it and they had his phone number.</p>
<p>Consumer Retrieval Services at the time of this writing is about 9 weeks old. In a simple google search to find out if the company has any publicity I came across some free press releases, as well as an early warning on the <a href="http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/449/ripoff0449023.htm">rip off report</a> that was not a testimony or direct complaint, but merely someone else who had been approached by the company. CRS offered to assist this lady in retrieving her money back from a different scam &#8211; for a fee of $485.00. My friend Jim&#8217;s offer was for a packet to assist him in getting his money back for only $149.00.</p>
<p>Now you can imagine, if someone said give me $150 and I will get you back your 10g how this might be exciting &#8211; especially if you had kissed the money goodbye. I cautioned Jim from ripping out his credit card &#8211; even though it was only $150 bucks.  I began to ask some questions to the representative on the phone. There was no guarantee Jim would get his refund.</p>
<p>I decided to do a little whois search on the domain http://consumerretrievalservices.com. Here&#8217;s a picture of what I found &#8211; which I&#8217;m including as you never know when a company may decide to change their information to private:</p>
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<p>I was a bit relieved to see a 5 year registration as a longer registration does give me hope that the business intends to be around for a while.</p>
<p>I called back the company and confirmed that Frankie was indeed the owner of the company. I talked to a gentleman (not Frankie) on the second call who claimed to have 19 years of online marketing experience. Why someone with that much experience would think a web presence would hurt his company or was unnecessary is way beyond me. He tried to tell me how easy it is to fake things online &#8211; even testimonials, etc. LOL, like he had to tell me about it.</p>
<p>Anyway, I asked if I could get the package for free, and if we got my friends money back that we would pay for the package and give him a great testimonial. You know &#8211; something to really help him out. He told me he already had stacks of testimonials and they would be added to the website.</p>
<p>I asked him how many clients per day the company was taking on and I was told between 25-35. Hmm. 25 * 150 = 3,750. Not bad for a day of calling up scammed folks, offering some relief, and mailing out a packet over night &#8211; which the cost for that is well under $10 I&#8217;m sure. So, lets deduct that &#8211; Still pulling in roughly $3,500 on a bad day. Not bad for a few people in an office making calls and mailing out some packet.</p>
<p>I do realize there is some work involved in getting their packet together &#8211; none the less it is work done once that can be sold over and over again. Once they find a way to one company, it is only a matter of finding the list of customers that company had.</p>
<p>I desperately wondered what the success rate was for this company in helping consumers get their money back, but was given no definitive answer, while I could have sworn Jane (the lady I initially talked to) quoted something over 90 percent. Her manager was hesitant to release any of that information.</p>
<p>So here I sit wondering if this $150 is worth my friend Jim&#8217;s time, or just a way for someone else to get something more from him.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some other stuff I checked out. That email address above goes to a site &#8211; http://aristocratsllc.com/ which appears to promote &#8211; guess what &#8211; Internet marketing. Backlinks from that site stem from a blog that looks like it was built on the same template &#8211; http://web30technology.com. That has some wordpress blogging and internet marketing/seo stuff as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on the fence, intrigued, and skeptical at the same time.</p>
<p>I like to see companies that offer a money back guarantee. At least in the beginning while they build a reputation. Or an even better thought would be for this company to offer only taking a commission off those cases where they are really able to get the money back for the person.</p>
<p>If they have even a 75 percent or better in getting funds back, they will do well.  Unfortunately, it will take some time for this company to build a reputation and they will need to prove themselves.</p>
<p>If you have been approached by this company and have taken them up on their services, I would love to hear from you. Results will be greatly appreciated.</p>
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